The choice of the seventy elders? By Rabbi Simon
1st Sept 2011
YHWH – The four letter sacred name of the Creator
Yahushua – Commonly called Jesus in the West which is in error.
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Bmidbar 11:5-6 We remember the fish, which we did eat in Mitzrayim (Egypt) freely; the cucumbers, and the melons, and the leeks, and the onions, and the garlic: 6 But now our soul is dried away: there is nothing at all, beside this manna, before our eyes.
The people of Y’sra’el were complaining to Musa that they have not had meat and would like to eat meat but they also complained we want our fish, cucumbers, melons, leeks and onions. Here are some interesting facts even though YHWH punished us for our disobedience but these foods that are described in them we see who the true Y’sraelites are and where they would be scattered. It is my hypothesis which can be proved in the Bible itself. The Y’sraelites would have been scattered in countries rich with these produce this is because YHWH was angry with us so he let us have our foods but removed us out of his sight but was there all along in our exile as the Shekinah.
Today if you go to Pakistan, India, Spain and Brazil these foods are in plenty of supply and grow readily there but certain nations import them which would also indicate where our people are cohabiting today.
Onions: These are in plenty supply in Spain and Spain is famous for its Spanish onions. We find many Y’sraelites in Spain both Sephardic and other Spanish races.
Melons, cucumbers and Onions: India is one of the largest suppliers of these vegetables and Pakistan produces them in abundance right next door but originally it was part of India until 1947 when it split into a separate country.
These produce were first cultivated in Africa hence why the Y’sraelites missed eating them in Egypt. African nations also export melons and cucumbers. You will find Y’sraelites in these nations from the tribes. The natural choice for our people after Iran was India and Pakistan while some had remained in Africa others were taken as slaves to Europe and America. Europe mainly imports melons and onions which is indicative that these nations would have Y’sraelites too.
The leek: A common food in Europe so our people who were either brought here through slavery or migrated there have plenty of leeks to eat. Leek is very good for reducing blood pressure by drinking it in boiled water. So even in the judgment of Yahuweh we see His mercy for us.
Bmidbar 11:8 And the people went about, and gathered it, and ground it in mills, or beat it in a mortar, and baked it in pans, and made cakes of it: and the taste of it was as the taste of fresh oil.
Notice the tradition of our people making what is described as cakes, this is not quite like a British cake as we understand it. By cakes here is meant flat bread type object so you can see this being produced in Iran, Iraq, Pakistan, India and Africa. The people there make what is known as a Chappati from wheat flour which is a flat unleavened bread to eat and it is given different names.
The Mexicans call it Tortilla which is the same so we have our people in Mexico also. This came directly as a result of our people being exiled there who took this custom there of baking these products. Notice also they would forget Passover but they would perpetually eat the unleavened bread without even realizing it.
Bmidbar 11:16 And hwhy said unto Musa (Moses), Gather unto me seventy men of the elders of Y’sra’el, whom You know to be the elders of the people, and officers over them; and bring them unto the tabernacle of the congregation, that they may stand there with you.
YHWH told Musa to gather and form leaders from each tribe. He commanded to gather seventy men. Musa then must have thought to himself if I am going to gather seventy men then that will cause a problem because I cannot divide seventy men into twelve tribes but what he did was he gathered seventy-two because it was divisible into twelve. Twelve times six equals seventy-two. If Musa had not done that it would have created jealousy and strife in the tribes because uneven numbers would have to be chosen instead between the twelve and as we realize Y’sraeli’s were complainers they would have complained abut uneven numbers.
While Musa was busy in organizing these men a certain thing happened. There were two men in the camp who the Targum of Jonathan tells us because of their humility did not come forward for the leadership of the seventy but were meant to be part of the leadership. The Ruach of YHWH rested upon them. These two men were Eldad and Medad, they started to prophecy in the camp while the seventy others were prophesying also.
Eldad and Medad were Moses’s half brothers through Amram’s second wife.
Bmidbar 11:19-20 You shall not eat one day, nor two days, nor five days, neither ten days, nor twenty days; 20 But even a whole month, until it comes out of your nostrils, and it be hateful to you: because that you have despised hwhy which is among you, and have wept before him, saying, Why did we come out of Mitzrayim (Egypt)?
YHWH was very angry at our people asking for meat to eat never the less He gave them quails. Now quails are very common in Pakistan and India. Note these two nations still have many Y’sraelites even today who after the event have taken on the local religions so they are either Hindu or Muslim today.
YHWH’s wisdom is in His judgment coupled with mercy.
1+2+5+10+20+30=68
These are not just numbers but they carry His punishment and His mercy.
Let me show you on the map below with an imaginary clock face with the middle-east map as these numbers are related to our sojourn, our punishment in the various countries.
1 = Europe such as Turkey where Rabbi Paulos went to teach the lost sheep.
2 = Countries such as Iran.
5 = takes us to Turkmenistan and Afghanistan
10 = east of our exile in Asia and South East Asia.
20 = our exile towards the east of Y’sra’el going furthest east towards China and Indonesia.
30= our exile in Africa.
I have given you a rough picture above on the middle-east map for you to see. One question is how do we end up west if the clock faces are all pointing North, South and the East? The way history has worked out for us when the second Temple was destroyed our people ran into Africa (West) to escape the Romans, some actually left to Africa before Jerusalem was destroyed. The Ashanti tribe in Ghana and Ewe are Y’sraelites who also ended up there as a result of the destruction of Jerusalem. Some of the rich nobility had left earlier such as the Tobiads of Jordan. Some went to Syria while others to Iran, Iran and some went to South Africa who had the wealth to do so.
While we still had seventy-five percent of our people in Iran and Iraq who had not returned after the seventy years of the exile they pushed further east towards India, Pakistan and Bangladesh which are today’s modern country names. It is well know that Pakistan has the Monjodaro and Harappa civilizations which connect back to the Cushite Empire. Abraham was related to Cush through marriage. While our people thought they were safe in India, Pakistan and of course Africa what they did not know is that if they remain Torahless which many had started to be the punishment had not ended and would continue as the generations reset each time an unrighteous generation is born. I explain this more in my book “World War III, The Second Exodus” at www.abrahamic-faith.com.
What were the Romans in the first century BC became the British Empire ruling lands in Western Europe and these went to India and conquered India thus enslaving our people there and dragging many away to prisons that they had created just like the Bagram airbase prison and Guantanomo where apart from Jihadis many innocent are being held captive for no reason other than that they are Muslim and may be considered a threat. While the Europeans which included the British Empire went to Africa and brought our people as slaves to Europe including the Portuguese of course who started the slave trade (these were first to go to India to Goa) so our people ended up in slavery on both sides both in India before the 1947 partition and in Africa in the 14th century. This indicates that by the action of the European gentiles our people ended up West in the Western world. Some of us like myself traveled there to live through parents immigrating there whilst others were taken there generations ago by force. The slavery of our people in India was not easy they fought very hard in fact because our people were in all three religions called Sikhism, Islam and Hindus they joined together and fought the British and other European invaders.
Tipu
Sulatan ben Haider Ali
One particular Muslim warrior by the name of Tipu Sultan who was very clever and astute who saw how the British would make inroads into India to enslave his people. He put up a fight and was so feared by the British that he helped win many battles in India, Mysore. The British never defeated Tipu alone whenever they fought him. He allied with the French until they too deserted him. He allied with the Emir of Afghanistan and the sultan of Turkey. He was a clever and learned man who had his own personal library and could speak several languages. The British eventually defeated him by their diplomacy and allying with others. Tipu was well versed in science and helped his subjects lived in peace and help build many modern amenities such as waterways bridges, roads and dams. He was one of the few Muslims rulers who treated his non Muslims subjects with respect and dignity giving them opportunities to develop in agriculture.
Eventually when he was killed even when he was dead his people bound him to a horse and the British feared him and would not go near him thinking that he was still alive. There were several other people both from Muslim, Hindu and Sikh backgrounds who fought the British Raj.
One Sikh man was so enraged at the British Raj and the way the British slaughtered the Indians that though he was called Uddam Singh he named himself Ram Mohammed Singh Azzad uniting the four faiths into his name to avenge his fellow countrymen irrespective of religion.
Uddam
Singh
He traveled to England to avenge the deaths of his innocent countrymen.
[1]Singh shot the unsuspecting 75 years old Michael O'Dwyer while he was attending a lecture meet at Caxton Hall in London. O'Dwyer had been Governor of the Punjab in 1919, when Brigadier General Reginald Edward Harry Dyer mercilessly ordered British troops to fire on a congregation of unarmed punjabis who had gathered at the Jallianwalla Bagh on the holy day of Baisakhi, who included Sikhs, Muslims, Hindus and Christians.
General
Reginald Harry Dyer
The butcher of Amritsar called General Reginald Harry Dyer who had killed the unarmed Indian men, women and children in a mass cold blooded murder. The Sikh man to avenge him traveled to Britain to shoot him down.
Of course upon the General’s return to England he was given £25,000 by a pro imperialist Conservative paper called the Morning post.
I myself have ties with Amritsar because my parents were born and brought up there.
Personally I don’t really have any love for General Dyer because when he had the innocent people killed they were not just killed but were massacred without mercy with machine guns and the whole Jalian wala Bagh square was filled with dead bodies with even the water well there filled with the corpses of women, children and men which belonged to all four religions. This man was a Christian of course and Christians have had much blood on their hands which is nothing new. There were other Christians in England at the time who did not approve of what had happened in Jalianwala Bagh which must be said.
[2]He was met by Lieutenant-General Sir Havelock Hudson, who told him that he was relieved of his command. He was told later by the Commander-in-Chief in India, General Sir Charles Carmichael Monro, to resign his post and that he would not be reemployed.
However most Christians who give lip service and the excuse that one is not born again if he does anything unrighteous towards others need themselves to understand that the buzzword “born again” is worn out and irrelevant. Anyone who does not obey the Torah is not “born from above” and this is what the Torah, the prophets and even the New Testament teaches and agrees with but Christendom is the little child both ignorant and oblivious to the truth happily living its life unto its eventual death. See my teachings on the new birth under CD Teachings in the Abrahamic-Faith pages.
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They write that General Dyer died with a broken heart and of course one can understand why that would be for a man who broke so many other hearts smashing their dreams and wiping their many generations that would have otherwise be born.
When he died he was in poor health and suffered from a stroke with these last words.
[3]Thank you, but I don't want to get better. So many people who knew the condition of Amritsar say I did right...but so many others say I did wrong. I only want to die and know from my Maker whether I did right or wrong.
Every dictator upon his death thinks the Creator caused him to murder the innocents.
Even today in India many of our people Y’sra’el are captivated in the four religions as the text of the Torah tells us.
Debarim 28:36 hwhy shall bring you, and your king which You shall set over you, unto a nation which neither You nor your ahvot (fathers) have known; and there shall You serve other elohim, wood and stone.
In India our people are literally serving wood and stone as elohim.
Bmidbar 11:25 And hwhy came down in a cloud, and spoke unto him, and took of the Ruach (Spirit) that was upon him, and gave it unto the seventy elders: and it came to pass, that, when the Ruach (Spirit) rested upon them, they prophesied, and did not cease.
Coming back to the elders, while YHWH was speaking through these elders a young man came to notify Musa that the two people who did not come forward to become leaders who were meant to be leaders were prophesying in the camp. Let’s pick up the story there.
Bmidbar 11:26 But there remained two of the men in the camp, the name of the one was Eldad, and the name of the other Medad: and the Ruach (Spirit) rested upon them; and they were of them that were written, but went not out unto the tabernacle: and they prophesied in the camp. 27 And there ran a young man, and told Musa (Moses), and said, Eldad and Medad do prophesy in the camp. 28 And Yahoshua the son of Nun, the servant of Musa (Moses), one of his young men, answered and said, My master Musa (Moses), forbid them.
Who was Eldad and Medad? These were the half brothers of Musa they were from the second wife of Amram the father of Moses. Note I have taught you about our Patriarchs having a minimum of two wives see the study on Abraham placing them in the North and South to control the territory.
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The same is true here. One of Amram’s wife was Jochebed mentioned in Exodus 6:20 who was from his father’s side so this second woman who Eldad and Medad are likely to be from is the wife from his mother’s side or a maternal cousin bride. This means Amram had two wives the same pattern as Abraham. Notice that our people placed wives in North and South because of river patterns in Africa and Mesopatamia running North and the South.
The young man that came running is likely to be Gershom who was Musa’s son. Yahoshua ben Nun obviously was not happy with what Eldad and Medad were prophesying even though it was all true. However Musa being a meek man told Yehoshua ben Nun not to worry that it would be great if all of YHWH’s people were prophets.
What was it that they were saying that Yahoshua ben Nun found offensive? Eldad and Medad were basically prophesying that after the Y’sraelites will eat the meat that a punishment would come upon them and they will die. They also prophesied that Musa would not be allowed to enter the land and would die outside the land. Now imagine if someone said this about a leader then the people around him would feel very angry, this is why Yahoshua ben Nun was angry at why Eldad and his brother were saying bad words about Musa but Musa knew what they were saying what was true so did not feel the need to rebuke them as a result. One other thing was prophesied by these two men. Let’s see what that was.
Ezek 38:17 Thus says the Master hwhy; Are you he of whom I have spoken in old time by my servants the prophets of Y’sra’el, which prophesied in those days many years that I would bring you against them?
Yes and indeed they did. The two prophets that spoke about Gog and Magog were Eldad and Medad. This truth s unknown by many today while many who back then were standing amongst the Y’sraelites with Musa did not know what to make of Gog and Magog but effectively the two brothers were prophesying how Y’sra’el will come through the harsh troubles at the end of days. Which Y’sra’el?
Ezek 38:11 And you shall say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,
Here is another prophecy that the present land of Y’sra’el as we know it will be destroyed and it will have its so called man-made wall that the Zionists have built removed at some future point. To understand what type of destruction this is please see the book World War III – The Second Exodus at http://www.abrahamic-faith.com.
One question is asked by many that why did YHWH command seventy elders? The answer is that they represent the seventy nations of the world. There are also seventy chief angels who are placed upon each nation and then there are individual angels placed upon individual cities. Shaitan has placed his seventy generals (unclean demons) on the seventy nations and he has placed a demon on each city too whose job is to disrupt the normal flow of people and their behavior. Whenever you hear of a shooting or some man according to the news just went berserk and started shooting at people is not as simple as the news people make it appear. These people who end up shooting innocent individuals are actually influenced by demonic spirits and enticed to carry out their grotesque plans. One fine example just happened in Norway when Anders Behring Breivik shot 85 people who is a Christian. This is not a laughing matter but a serious sign indicative of problems generally in such a country. We cannot just pass this off with “he was an extremist Christian” as many have done and then just lay the matter to rest. We need to give serious consideration to this and Norway’s general spirituality. This shows serious problems caused by unclean spirits in that environment.
Whenever this type of behavior patterns occur the reason is certain that the city in which these events have taken place or even country lacks prayer and people praying for its safety with a true spirit. Without serious prayer and people who walk the Torah standing in the gap no place is safe from Shaitan and his cohorts so the faithful believers must be praying for each other wherever they live. It would be wrong to feel happy about such a state of any country but collective prayer must be said. In a recent incident in Nigeria where a bomb was planted and which ripped through the UN building in Abuja and many there died is indicative of a darkness that envelopes that nation. It may have many thousands of Churches lining up the streets and many people who go there weekly for their usual socializing but the country is in darkness because very few people practice Torah and uphold the statues of YHWH. This is terribly sad and indicative that the demonic spirits in Nigeria especially in Abuja are getting the upper hand due to the lack of the true faitful standing up to the principalities of the air.
Ephiyah 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Remember where they is lack of Torah it’s because there is abundance of wickedness and it reigns instead of justice and righteousness and even the prayer of the so called socializing Christians is an abomination before Yahuweh.
Mishle (Pro) 28:9 He that turns away his ear from hearing the Torah, even his prayer shall be abomination.
Now we should understand why we do not need Churches which are den of thieves and wickedness but Torah houses of righteous living.
When Y’sra’el sinned and said good bye to the Torah then YHWH said good bye to the Y’sraelites then how much more so to the wicked Christians.
This article hopefully helps you to see what went on with Y’sra’el in its many travels…
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Read the fifteen books of the Apocrypha to get an understanding of the events both of the exile and of Israel’s early history before Yahushua the Messiah was born. Read Ethics of the Fathers to understand rabbinic wisdom and some important elements of the story of Genesis. The tests, the trials and the miracles of the Temples. Without these books the story in the bible is incomplete and has gaps which these books will fill up and give you a more complete understanding.
Abrahamic-Faith Siddur transliterated Hebrew with English (Daily life prayers)
Many times we wonder what prayers should we do when we go to bed, when we leave our home in the morning and how do we pray daily? What prayer should I do if I have a ritual bath? What prayer is for affixing a Mezuzah? Each year you wonder how to do the Passover Aggadah and what is the procedure. This book also covers women’s niddah laws to give you understanding into women’s ritual purity. Unlike other prayer books Rabbi Simon actually bothers to explain small details that are important and often ignored. This is one book you should not be without.
World War III, The Second Exodus, Y’sra’el’s return journey home
How will the genetic Hebrews be taken back to the land? Are the present day Jews in Y’sra’el of ancient stock? Is there any prophecy of foreigners invading Y’sra’el and inhabiting the land? How will Elohim have war with Amalek and wipe them out and who is Amalek today? Why is the Church so confused about bible prophecy?
How will the end come and how will the Y’sraelites go back home? Is this via the rapture or marching back on foot? What happens if we die in our exile? And many more questions answered. The time has come to expose the errors or others.
Books to be released 2011/2012
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